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The science of dreams

Francesca Siclari, neurologist, Professor at the Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam and head of the Sleep & Dreams Group at the Netherlands Institute for Neuroscience, studies dreams and consciousness: what happens in the brain when we sleep - and when we are halfway.

World Sleep Forum · Monte Verità · Ascona, Switzerland · November 2025

The video

01

A third state of being

In her talk at the forum, Siclari describes sleep as a third state: we are conscious, we have experiences, but with a different way of thinking and without the external environment. Neither wakefulness nor absence.

It is a different state of being, a third state.
02

Measuring sleeping consciousness

Professor at the Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam, Siclari heads the Sleep & Dreams Group at the Netherlands Institute for Neuroscience: with high-density EEG, the consciousness of sleep becomes measurable.

03

The threshold that concerns the road

Understanding how consciousness switches off and on again helps read the grey zones between wakefulness and sleep: the same zones where driving becomes vulnerable.

The source

Event
World Sleep Forum, Monte Verità - Ascona, Switzerland
Recorded
November 2025
Original language
Italian
Rights
Authorised interview: release signed and verified. Published by Drive Awake.

Published on 03.09.2026

Threads in the network

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The series

Eight international voices recorded at Monte Verità, all of them online. The series lives voice by voice, directly on driveawake.ch.

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